[soljahboi83]

i need help please, certain characters won't load and when it doesn't it either says "put character name in quotes, error with cmd1" and for this character raiden it says this "error message can't load act/cvs_raiden04.act error loading cvs_raiden.def error loading p1" how do i fix this problem? could you help me please, thanks

[SlayerGatsu]

well you got your self a Pre mugen Character!!!
is fron the era of the First mugen, and therefore it needs to be updated.

here i'll tell you what to do.

in the def file, put in quotes the name and screen name of the character, then the authopr name,
disable the rest of the first part by putting semicolumnst at the beggining of the line.

correct example, the names are an example, not therefore automatically exact.

charname = "Kfm"
screen.name = "kfm"
author = "elecbyte"

then open up the cmd file by clicking it with THE RIGHT MOUSE button and selecting Edit.

now comes the hard part, you have to put LOOOTS of quotation.
every part will need to be changes as follows.

From

[command]
name = command-name
command = sequence

[state -3 ???]
trigger? = command = command-name

To

[command]
name = "command-name"
command = sequence

[state -3 ???]
trigger? = command = "command-name"

basically search for the word command, and then put quotes on the name to the right, is easy enoufgh..
is not yet perfectly proven, but that should be about it to make the char work.

If you make an erroe, when you run mugen, the error will be signaled, therefore look up the state he tells you to, and search for non-quoted command names.

Tip:. a state is a part of a statedef, in a cmd file, it may not be numerated correctly, therefore if you can find lots of the same states you will have to manually brroewse for it.

Tip2:. you are better off using the Find funcion of a notepad to spot the state,
ex:. if wimugen says error in state 2002 in player.cmd, then to find the place, openup the cmd file, press ctrl-F on the keyborad and enter "e 2002" (with out quotes)

if this does not help I can explain more B)
ps: how does the X-Box go? :unsure:

[soljahboi83]

i haven't been able to retry the mugen to xbox yet, as for the character that will not load...it's all quoted from what i've seen, what else could be wrong with it? i downloaded the mee program but i can't save anything or save it as new at all...is there something wrong with it? 'cause theres a lot of pics on the character screen that is messed up...i'm stuck...sorry

[SlayerGatsu]

well now don;t let go of it!
you ought to keep 'n tryng!

well, then the solution is way easyer then i hoped...
post the def file (even pasting it on the replay)
and i'll show you what is wrong with it,

is probably a comma or something out of quotes in the line of the character name, look for that.

in reguard of mee and immages, download from mugenation:
mee patch for xp, and patch the program, it will allow you to save.
then you should be able to find in this section an explanation on how to fix the colors of a char...
B)

Ps: check Here

[soljahboi83]

i've downloaded the mee program i opened up everything i edited the images that needed to be edited but it won't allow me to save...whats the problem?..by the way thanks for the help i really appreciate it...

[SlayerGatsu]

in reguard of mee and immages, download from mugenation:
mee patch for xp, and patch the program, it will allow you to save.
then you should be able to find in this section an explanation on how to fix the colors of a char...

Look, i'll link you too...

MEE 0.388b
>Patch XP< this is what you need.

To patch xp, copy the files (all of them) inside the MEE main folder B)

after becoming able to save:

Tutorilal

Don't forget to post this def! B)

[soljahboi83]

here it is...hopefully you can help me

;=====================================================================
; DEF File For "raiden" Made By "H�h"
; Ver. 1.10
;=====================================================================
; Player Information
[Info]
name = "Raiden"
displayname = "Raiden"
versiondate = 01,30,2005
mugenversion = 04,14,2001
author = "H�h"
pal.defaults = 4,1

; Files for the Player
[Files]
cmd = Cvs_raiden.cmd
cns = Cvs_raiden-N.cns ;Constants
st = Cvs_raiden-N.cns ;States (Normal)
st1 = Cvs_raiden-S.cns ;States (Special)
st2 = Cvs_raiden-H.cns ;States (Hyper)
st3 = cvs2_system.cns
stcommon = common1.cns ;Common states (in data/)
sprite = Cvs_raiden.sff ;Sprite
anim = Cvs_raiden.air ;Animation
sound = Cvs_raiden.snd ;Sound
pal1 = act/Cvs_raiden04.act ;Palettes
pal2 = act/Cvs_raiden05.act
pal3 = act/Cvs_raiden06.act
pal4 = act/Cvs_raiden01.act
pal5 = act/Cvs_raiden02.act
pal6 = act/Cvs_raiden03.act
pal7 = act/Cvs_raiden10.act
pal8 = act/Cvs_raiden11.act
pal9 = act/Cvs_raiden12.act
pal10 = act/Cvs_raiden07.act
pal11 = act/Cvs_raiden08.act
pal12 = act/Cvs_raiden09.act

thanks for the help again

[SlayerGatsu]

;=====================================================================
; DEF File For Raiden                       Made By H�h
; Ver. 1.10 
;=====================================================================
; Player Information
[Info]
name = "Raiden"
displayname = "Raiden"
versiondate = 01,30,2005
mugenversion = 04,14,2001
author = "H�h"
pal.defaults = 4,1,2,3,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12

; Files for the Player
[Files]
cmd = Cvs_raiden.cmd
cns = Cvs_raiden-N.cns;Constants
st = Cvs_raiden-N.cns;States (Normal)
st1 = Cvs_raiden-S.cns;States (Special)
st2 = Cvs_raiden-H.cns;States (Hyper)
st3 = cvs2_system.cns
stcommon = common1.cns;Common states (in data/)
sprite = Cvs_raiden.sff;Sprite
anim = Cvs_raiden.air;Animation
sound = Cvs_raiden.snd;Sound
pal1 = act/Cvs_raiden04.act;Palettes
pal2 = act/Cvs_raiden05.act
pal3 = act/Cvs_raiden06.act
pal4 = act/Cvs_raiden01.act
pal5 = act/Cvs_raiden02.act
pal6 = act/Cvs_raiden03.act
pal7 = act/Cvs_raiden10.act
pal8 = act/Cvs_raiden11.act
pal9 = act/Cvs_raiden12.act
pal10 = act/Cvs_raiden07.act
pal11 = act/Cvs_raiden08.act
pal12 = act/Cvs_raiden09.act

Porva, perche sembrava gia' tutto in ordine...
lol, lol, I’ll leave it there... my mind went off a little and I replied in Italian... :lol:
well it means:
Try, Because everything seemed to be in order already...

[soljahboi83]

sorry about this but i noticed it looked alright but when i try to select the character this screen pops up "Error message:Can't load act/cvs_raiden04.act Error loading chars/cvs_raiden.def Error loading p2" what does that mean? do i need to fix something with the act04 for raiden?

[SlayerGatsu]

well if it's contained inside the folder be sure that the spelling is right,
if IS NOT in the folder, comment the line!

sprite = Cvs_raiden.sff;Sprite
anim = Cvs_raiden.air;Animation
sound = Cvs_raiden.snd;Sound
;pal1 = act/Cvs_raiden04.act;Palettes
pal2 = act/Cvs_raiden05.act
pal3 = act/Cvs_raiden06.act
pal4 = act/Cvs_raiden01.act

try changing this line also
pal.defaults = 4,5,6,1,2,3,10,11,12,7,8,9

ho, and the error message says that for some reson the palette can't be loaded... i don't know why, but it should be due to the name or to it's existence, i never heard anything of corrupted palettes... TXG B)

[soljahboi83]

nevermind it was my fault i took it out of it's act folder and placed it with everything else...my mistake..as for the mee i downloaded both of those programs but it still won't allow me to save and make changes...is there something i'm missing?

[SlayerGatsu]

YES, probably...

Did you copy the files from the patch zipped folder inside the Mee folder?O_o
is about the only thing that can be wrong! O_o

[soljahboi83]

yes i did and it won't allow me to save at all..how do can i edit the pcx's and upload it on the sff? when i try that it says unformatted file or something like that

[SlayerGatsu]

O_o

uninstall mee, deledte is complitely, then Ri-install it and re patch it.
something must have gone wrong while patching it...
that must also be the reson for the error message, (if u can be more clear about that...)

[soljahboi83]

i tried many times... it still doesn't allow me to save...how can i edit the pcx images and upload it on mcm? the color comes out weird

[SlayerGatsu]

ok, back up now, you are going way too haead...

lesson 1

Creation of an sff file

1) gather some immages
2) make a universal palette
3) index all the immages under the same palette
4) insert the immages in a sff file usinf MCM or MEE
5) save the file B)

that 5 steps will allow you to create an sff file.

lesson 2

Edit an sff file

1) Ask the original author for it's autorization if you intend to publish your edit.
2) extract all immages (MCM click on extract (|| export) all to pcx)
3) Edit ALL immages
4) Create a NEW master palette of the edited immages
5) mount them in an sff file
6) save B)

This other 6 Steps will alow you to edit an Sff file

lesson 3

The master palette.
to make a true master pallette follow this steps

A.) if your char is an edit,

1) Grab it's original palette, load it on Photoshop (or any other program of your choiche that has the option)
2) while making the edits, (in RGB) Use only one colo at the time, and add it to the palette.
3) when ythe drowings are over the palette must be complete, Therefore save it!
3.5) Tip: you can make a file, were you make a spot of each color that you will need to add, and then mount it succesively in the palette
4) Save all the palette, (as Master.act usually)

B.) If your char is totally original

1) while u make the immages catalog the colors (don't forget the sparks!)
2) mount them on a palette file
3) save the palette
OR
1) make all the immages
2) make a drowing with all the immages that use different colors, do not forget the Sparks and specials! tell the program to index it, and choose local selective, this will generate a universal palette.
3) save it B)

se if this LOT of information helps B)

[soljahboi83]

thanks for the info...i got the mee to work properly now...at first it wasn't allowing me to open it when i put everything in the mee folder but i kept trying and now it works...thanks for the help, but as for editing the pcx's...when i try to do that with my photoimpressions it looks clear but when i try to upload the same pic in mcm it comes out ugly or if i use me it says it's an unformatted file which is weird 'cause it's a pcx format...what paintshop editor do you use? maybe i can download it from somewhere...thanks again

[SlayerGatsu]

Adobe Photoshop 6, I know that 7 is better...
any how you may want to stick to 6

the problem can be due to the file format, it may be Badly generate, can the editor Open it agein?

anyhow the reson is the following

THE IMMAGE IS NOT INDEXED WITH THE SAME PALETTE

yep, if mee says so it's Saved a RGB! and you don't want that, since mugen does not allow it!

on photoshop
immage>mode>indexcolor
Opens a pannel
Costum
Load, select the original char Normal Pal
click ok, Colors that are not on the palette will be either errased, Or made the "closest matching" one.
You would wish therefore to make a palette of your own, which contains all colors... and remake the sff from 0.
B)

[Mangaka]

Hey guys, i got a problem with de Kenshin Himura Char, the error message is "String value for displayname must be in quotes" "Error reading kenshin.def" "Error finding characters/stages in select.def" in th DOS and WIN version.

Thanks

[soljahboi83]

slayergatsu answer that question at the beginning of this...it was the reply with raiden, you should see it...that's the one...oh by the way gatsu i have another question...the pic on my character select screen works now but the palettes are all messed up and only work for the standing stance and that's it...what went wrong?